The five stages of transformation

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Seth Adler

Tony Saldanha is back on the pod to discuss the Five Stages of Transformation. What is transformation? Why does nobody agree what it is? And how do you know the real thing from a bit of marketing hype? 

With some organizations behaving like Alice in Wonderland, Tony provides an entertaining sanity check on issues including disruption, strategy and automation. 


"I think you almost have to have a parallel strategy of automate and transform or disrupt. Because when you kind of look at things like data and AI, I think that's your disruptive part. And you have to be able to walk and chew gum, which is operate and automate and disrupt at the same time."